Delegates to Congress . Letters of delegates to Congress, 1774-1789, Volume 19, August 1 1782-March 11 1783
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John Taylor Gilman to To: Josiah Bartlett


Dear Sir,
Philada. Augst. 5th. 1782.

   The Letter which you did me the favour to write on the 5th Ultimo(1) I receiv' d on the 22d. What will be done respectg. Vermont affairs I cannot Say, I Suppose under present Circumstances it would not be possible to have any thing determined in Congress respecting them. I am well informed that one reason given (in private by some Gentlemen from the Southward) why they would not make them a Seperate State is because it would be adding One more to the Votes of the Eastern States, which they Say they will not do untill they can add one to the Southern likewise. I need not Comment on this. I am Sensible while the Vermont business remains undetermined N.H. will be in an Unhappy Situation. I am Informed by the New York Delegates that their State has lately (in Consequence of repeated Applications) granted a Number of Commissions to people in the County of Cumberland which I think Joins on the River. A Member of Congress from New Engld. with whom I am Intimately acquainted, (2) this day Shew me Copy of a letter which he was going to Send to a Gentn. of high rank in the State to which he belonged & in answer to One he had recd. Urging that Vermont might be made a Seperate State, in which he Says, "I am fully Convinced of the Justice & policy of making them a Seperate State, but it is as likely that Great Britain will Cede Scotland to the United States as that the present Congress will make Vermont an Independant State." I wish N. H. may not be again Duped In this affair. I Enclose you a list of officers &c. by which you will See how great a Number of Officers some States have, who have but few privates



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-- and yet in some Instances those States who have so few men have (not long Since) made a large number of Officers to fill up Vacancies.(3) There is now a Resolution of Congress against Issueing new Commissions.(4) Please to keep the Inclosed list in some measure Secret (I do not mean from the Commte.) but would not wish to have it made too public. It is Evident that our Minister at the Court of Madrid has recd. dishonourable & Fallacious Treatment, from that Court. Congress have this affair now under Consideration (5) what will be done I cannott Say but when I consider the Conduct of that Court & the Terms heretofore assented to on our part as the Basis of Treaty I really wish a Treaty with them may not take place, but from some Information (later than Mr. Jay' s tho not Official) it is probable they have altered their Conduct & perhaps have before this Concluded a Treaty. It seems to be agreed that Spain have decided Intentions of obtaining Gibralter and that they wish the present War may Continue. The Subject of former Instructions to our Commissrs. respecting a Treaty of peace &c. will I Imagine be taken up in a few Days, It is Important but what can be done where so much has been undone I cannot Say. In my letter to you of the 9th Ultimo. I wrote something respecting Loan Office Certificates, this business is in the Same Situation it was when I then wrote you. I will Venture to Say to you one thing, which is if N.H. does not adopt a System of Policy for her Self she will probably be left in the Rear. I am Sorry to Say that it is my Opinion their is not a probability of the accounts between the Several States being adjusted for a long time. I find it is very Expensive living here, beef has been frequently sold for 16d per pound, butter at 3/. Though these articles are much higher than things in general yet almost Every article is Dear. I Shall want some money by the first of September but know not how I am to be furnished, if you will Inform me I Shall be thereby obliged. Their is Eleven States now represented in Congress & would be 12 but one of the Delegates of Maryland went home a few Days ago, it is Expected he will return Immediately. 6 Thus have I almost filled up my paper & I am afraid you will think unprofitably, I should be glad to give you more of facts & less of Opinions, but for want of the one I adopt the Other. I Shall be glad to hear from you frequently

   I am with much Esteem your Hum Servt, J T. Gilman

   P.S. As I write you freely, if you find any part of this or any other of my Letters which ought to be kept Secret you will undoubtedly keep it as Such.


Note:

   RC (NhD: Bartlett Papers).



1 Not found.



2 Not identified.



3 The enclosed detailed list of Continental officers, noncommissioned officers, and privates, with the annual cost of their "Pay & Emoluments" (see illustration), is in the Bartlett Papers, NhD.




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   Reproduction of Continental Officers, noncommissioned officers, an privates

   "Pay & emoluments Per Year," August 1782




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4 Adopted July 11, 1782. JCC, 22:382.



5 See Charles Thomson' s Notes of Debate, August 2, 1782.



6 Turbutt Wright had returned home about July 12. He resumed his seat in Congress August 19. JCC, 23:470.